May 4, 2026: New Podcast Episode Considers Impact of New Digital Technologies on Pragmatic Trial Design

In a new episode of the Rethinking Clinical Trials Podcast, Majid Afshar and Mary Ryan Baumann of the University of Wisconsin-Madison expanded on key takeaways from their recent Grand Rounds presentation, “A Pragmatic Randomized Controlled Trial of Ambient Artificial Intelligence (AI) to Improve Health Practitioner Well-Being.”

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The need to document patient visits in the electronic health record is a driver of clinician burnout. The research team sought to assess whether the use of an ambient AI scribe could improve clinician well-being by automating the documentation process. In the podcast, Afshar and Ryan Baumann reflected on some of the forces that guided their trial design.

“The technology itself is in silo, right? The speech-to-text and text-to-speech and [large language models] are very good,” said Afshar. “I think the challenge is actually adapting it to the human use case… We spent a lot of time with our human factors engineering implementation scientists to make sure that the training and onboarding and the use of the tool was appropriate for given end users.”

According to Afshar, this predeployment step led to a fidelity rate of over of 70%.

Once the research team began collecting data, the combination of new digital technologies and a pragmatic setting posed its own set of challenges.

“The pure amount of information that’s coming from each participant is astounding,” said Baumann. “It’s not on a scale that you can look at each individual data point and necessarily understand: Is this an outlier? Did something weird happen on this one day? What are the other elements and factors within a health system that’s still operating as it normally does?”

Ultimately, the research team found a 20% reduction in burnout and a trend towards improvement in professional fulfillment. UW Health scaled the project from 66 to over 600 licenses.

Afshar is an associate professor and director of learning health systems in the Departments of Medicine and Biostatistics & Medical Informatics. Baumann is an assistant professor in the Departments of Population Health Sciences and Biostatistics & Medical Informatics.

Podcast April 30, 2026: Ambient AI to Improve Health Practitioner Well-Being (Majid Afshar, MD, MS; Mary Ryan Baumann, PhD)

In this episode of the NIH Collaboratory Podcast, Drs. Majid Afshar and Mary Ryan Baumann discuss the conduct and results of their pragmatic trial.

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January 28, 2025: Assessing Whether Ambient Artificial Intelligence Can Improve Health Practitioner Well-Being, in This Week’s Rethinking Clinical Trials Grand Rounds

In this Friday’s Rethinking Clinical Trials Grand Rounds, Majid Afshar and Mary Ryan Baumann of the University of Wisconsin-Madison will present “A Pragmatic Randomized Controlled Trial of Ambient Artificial Intelligence to Improve Health Practitioner Well-Being.”

The Grand Rounds session will be held on Friday, January 30, 2026, at 1:00 pm eastern.

Afshar is an associate professor and director of Learning Health Systems in the Departments of Medicine and Biostatistics & Medical Informatics. Baumann is an assistant professor in the Departments of Population Health Sciences and Biostatistics & Medical Informatics.

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